I like Green and Brisco together. It was a good episode. I really enjoy the show. My wife and I never miss it. You can see the two Det's feeling each other's patterns and how they work. Lenny the old school cop who has seen it all. Green who's father had a good living and you can tell by the way Green dresses and carries himself. Atlantic City poker trip overnight. Hey they are still people. Its to bad about Orbach. He was a fine actor, and not just in L and O. In all of his films. Fontana took some getting used to but he has grown on me. One thing I really did like is when Green is interrogating the suspect and getting him to show his displeasure so to say with the opposite sex. It was clever directing and it really showed his different range of character. Lets face it he almost beat him on the street when he caught him and Lenny had to calm him down. I wish you just knew more of their pasts. I think it would help us get to know them better.
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Season 10 starts off with a bang
TheLittleSongbird20 October 2021
A number of episodes of 'Law and Order', and the franchise, have at least one thing that is notable about it (i.e. The introduction or final episode of a regular character, guest stars playing against type for examples. Season 10's first episode "Gunshow's" main interest point is that it is the introductory episode of Ed Green, my personal favourite of Briscoe's partners and became one of the longest serving regular characters of the show (Seasons 10-18).
"Gunshow" is a more than promising first episode for Green, and his partnership with Briscoe went on to be my personal favourite two main detectives pairing of the show (actually got into 'Law and Order' via the late Briscoe and Green period). It is also a great episode of 'Law and Order' and a great start for Season 10, starting off with pretty much a bang with only one thing letting it down in my view. Like a lot of 'Law and Order' episodes, the subject is a controversial one and it is handled very well.
The production values are slick and have a subtle grit, with an intimacy to the photography without being too claustrophobic. The music isn't used too much and doesn't get too melodramatic. The direction has enough taut urgency when needed while giving the case breathing space.
Writing is very intelligent and thoughtful, with the moral dilemmas of the controversial subject of guns being sensitively but not in a sugar-coated way handled. What it has to say about guns is insightful and having seen a number of 'Special Victims Unit' for example episodes where the writers' stance on a certain stance is presented heavy-handedly from one side, it was great to see a firm but not preachy argument that leans towards one viewpoint in particular but in a way where it is completely understand.
Moreover, the story is very compelling and taut. It is not an easy watch and is sometimes sad, but appropriately so. Green makes a very strong first impression, with a well established personality (not always likeable but where his feelings are understood completely) and one would not think that this was his first episode or the beginning of his and Briscoe's pairing, that's how well he and they have gelled already and more so than Briscoe's previous partnerings. His ways of getting to the truth fascinate. The acting is very good all round.
Did feel that "Gunshow" did fizzle somewhat the end, with a too prematurely predictable conclusion. Which was disappointing seeing as 'Law and Order' often delivered on having shocking endings that made one feel something emotionally, including on subject matters on the same level of controversial and tough as this one.
Overall, great. 9/10.
"Gunshow" is a more than promising first episode for Green, and his partnership with Briscoe went on to be my personal favourite two main detectives pairing of the show (actually got into 'Law and Order' via the late Briscoe and Green period). It is also a great episode of 'Law and Order' and a great start for Season 10, starting off with pretty much a bang with only one thing letting it down in my view. Like a lot of 'Law and Order' episodes, the subject is a controversial one and it is handled very well.
The production values are slick and have a subtle grit, with an intimacy to the photography without being too claustrophobic. The music isn't used too much and doesn't get too melodramatic. The direction has enough taut urgency when needed while giving the case breathing space.
Writing is very intelligent and thoughtful, with the moral dilemmas of the controversial subject of guns being sensitively but not in a sugar-coated way handled. What it has to say about guns is insightful and having seen a number of 'Special Victims Unit' for example episodes where the writers' stance on a certain stance is presented heavy-handedly from one side, it was great to see a firm but not preachy argument that leans towards one viewpoint in particular but in a way where it is completely understand.
Moreover, the story is very compelling and taut. It is not an easy watch and is sometimes sad, but appropriately so. Green makes a very strong first impression, with a well established personality (not always likeable but where his feelings are understood completely) and one would not think that this was his first episode or the beginning of his and Briscoe's pairing, that's how well he and they have gelled already and more so than Briscoe's previous partnerings. His ways of getting to the truth fascinate. The acting is very good all round.
Did feel that "Gunshow" did fizzle somewhat the end, with a too prematurely predictable conclusion. Which was disappointing seeing as 'Law and Order' often delivered on having shocking endings that made one feel something emotionally, including on subject matters on the same level of controversial and tough as this one.
Overall, great. 9/10.
Not NYC in 2015
gamay97 June 2015
I never watched original Law & Order episodes....only syndicated. Reason: I discovered Angie Harmon. WOW! I still only watch L&O when Harmon appears as Abbie Carmichael, usually on Sundance.
Tough case for McCoy, but the legal system suffers when a judge can overturn a jury's verdict. However, I agree with the judge. The profit margin is much higher for a gun manufacturer than for a super market. I see this as greed, but not as proof that the manufacturer intended for purchasers to convert the Rolfe to an automatic.
Something McCoy said was 'bleeped.' Was it the comment about 'crystal balls?' I watched this episode on TNT and not Sundance, the latter not cutting anything. TNT is 'Turner' and cuts anything slightly objectionable, visually or vocally.
When the killer was interrogated by Briscoe's partner, he had a bandage around his head. He is called as the final witness late in the episode. Didn't look like the same man interrogated. I came in a few minutes late and don't know what the 'murder 1' defendant had against college women.
My summary? Quite obvious. There was no DiBlasio in 1999.
Tough case for McCoy, but the legal system suffers when a judge can overturn a jury's verdict. However, I agree with the judge. The profit margin is much higher for a gun manufacturer than for a super market. I see this as greed, but not as proof that the manufacturer intended for purchasers to convert the Rolfe to an automatic.
Something McCoy said was 'bleeped.' Was it the comment about 'crystal balls?' I watched this episode on TNT and not Sundance, the latter not cutting anything. TNT is 'Turner' and cuts anything slightly objectionable, visually or vocally.
When the killer was interrogated by Briscoe's partner, he had a bandage around his head. He is called as the final witness late in the episode. Didn't look like the same man interrogated. I came in a few minutes late and don't know what the 'murder 1' defendant had against college women.
My summary? Quite obvious. There was no DiBlasio in 1999.
Six months from now, some other bright kid finds another way to tamper with the gun.
Mrpalli771 April 2018
A white man in his middle twenties started shooting at a park, killing several bystanders. After the shock, Briscoe and Green started talking to witnesses. The shooter yelled damn ******* to the victims, all pre-med students. He wore a baseball hat and a bag left in the same park where dectectives found a sport gun, whose serial number belonged to a man,a paramedic (Neal Huff), who stole an old lady's identity. Green took this case as personal, acting very hard in arresting the perp and trying with all the efforts to extort information from him in the questioning room: he succeed. But the hardship emerged for lawyers: ballistic didn't manage to match appropriately the slugs to the gun (the weapon was modified) and that's why the defendant managed to escape the death penalty. Furthermore there was a jurisdiction issue over selling weapons and things went wrong before the Appellate Court......Anyway, there must be a way to put the blame on the manufacturer.
An episode that involved weapons, too widespread in United States. The part related to lawyers is very long. Anyway, I like McCoy's speech before the jurors. Wait till the very end, you will be surprised of judge's reaction.
An episode that involved weapons, too widespread in United States. The part related to lawyers is very long. Anyway, I like McCoy's speech before the jurors. Wait till the very end, you will be surprised of judge's reaction.
Conversion kit
bkoganbing4 January 2020
For a small and cheap conversion kit sold for a nominal price you can convert semi-automatic weapon to a fully automatic one. A handy thing to have as Neal
Huff discovers when he sprays Central Park with automatic fire killing 17 female
nursing students. The man had issues clearly.
Catching him and identifying him was easy, but because the gun manufacturer dragged their feet Sam Waterston has to plea bargain Huff. At that point Waterston decides to go after the manufacturer for criminal liability.
The issues on gun control are fully aired in this excellent season opener which saw Jesse Martin's debut as Detective Ed Green.
Catching him and identifying him was easy, but because the gun manufacturer dragged their feet Sam Waterston has to plea bargain Huff. At that point Waterston decides to go after the manufacturer for criminal liability.
The issues on gun control are fully aired in this excellent season opener which saw Jesse Martin's debut as Detective Ed Green.
Not much different than today
tcoming22 July 2018
The first half of the show when as expected. Person goes on killing spree, eventually gets caught, and the DA pleads him out due to problems with the evidence.
The second half is no different today than it was when the episode was filmed, liberals want to make gun manufacturers responsible for what a person does with a product they purchase. The judges decision is not a surprise as another reviewer stated. There was some nice theatrics and speeches given at the end of the case but this episode has more to do with Hollywood's obsession to further an agenda of disarming law abiding gun owners.
Bringing out the Tropes
safenoe30 October 2023
Warning: Spoilers
Jesse L. Martin is introduced as Detective Ed Green and he makes quite an impression when he investigates Dennis Trope (played by Neal Huff) who is a misogynist mass murderer because he couldn't get into medical school because of female quotas that have prevented him from becoming a hotshot (pardon the pun) doctor.
Anyway, this is an episode for the times even though it debuted a quarter of a century ago or so. Anyway, the judge's jury nullification at the end was very controversial, allowing the judge to give a grand speech about gun control and so on. This episode debuted two years before nine eleven.
Anyway, this is an episode for the times even though it debuted a quarter of a century ago or so. Anyway, the judge's jury nullification at the end was very controversial, allowing the judge to give a grand speech about gun control and so on. This episode debuted two years before nine eleven.
Logic Vs Emotion
refinedsugar19 April 2024
'Gunshow' is often brought up as one of McCoy's (Sam Waterston) best moments. I don't deny there's a lot going on here to get him upset, but as judged on it's own two feet it falters. Largely because justice doesn't get served where it matters most for viewers. Though Det. Green (Jesse L. Martin) settles in nicely in this season premiere and tidbits are dropped that would be expanded upon later. Plus dislikable Judge Wright (Ron McLarty) returns to wreck havoc.
A nutcase shoots up a crowd of female premed students in Central Park, killing 15 and seriously injuring more though the gun is recovered. Det. Briscoe (Jerry Orbach) & Green (Martin) track down it's sale which leads them to ex-paramedic Dennis Trope (Neal Huff) who has an unhealthy hatred for women. After a confession, bloody clothes evidence are tossed out and because the suspect damaged the barrel they have to plea him out. So McCoy goes after the manufacturer of the firearm who've knowingly kept the gun as being easily convertible to fully automatic fire for profit.
I think they did a good job thru dialog & different perspectives in making the right to bear arm not biased or cliche. Arguments are there for both sides, but it's clear the company making the gun in question is only interested in doing what's good for business (greed). This is done thru talk of skirting local laws, the gun shows that put weapons into the hands of bad people and of course politics, the lobbying game and constitutional amendment rights are brought up.
'Gunshow' is a tale taken from real life events that were both sad and tragic. Judge Wright who obviously has a dislike for McCoy - at his worst in 'Damaged' - would appear once more in the 11th season. Of course as we all know Det. Green would settle nicely into the show before the gambling element intro'ed here would later be his undoing and exit from the series. It makes sense why this gets singled out for McCoy purposes, but it's not the strongest episode and the ending is a large reason why.
A nutcase shoots up a crowd of female premed students in Central Park, killing 15 and seriously injuring more though the gun is recovered. Det. Briscoe (Jerry Orbach) & Green (Martin) track down it's sale which leads them to ex-paramedic Dennis Trope (Neal Huff) who has an unhealthy hatred for women. After a confession, bloody clothes evidence are tossed out and because the suspect damaged the barrel they have to plea him out. So McCoy goes after the manufacturer of the firearm who've knowingly kept the gun as being easily convertible to fully automatic fire for profit.
I think they did a good job thru dialog & different perspectives in making the right to bear arm not biased or cliche. Arguments are there for both sides, but it's clear the company making the gun in question is only interested in doing what's good for business (greed). This is done thru talk of skirting local laws, the gun shows that put weapons into the hands of bad people and of course politics, the lobbying game and constitutional amendment rights are brought up.
'Gunshow' is a tale taken from real life events that were both sad and tragic. Judge Wright who obviously has a dislike for McCoy - at his worst in 'Damaged' - would appear once more in the 11th season. Of course as we all know Det. Green would settle nicely into the show before the gambling element intro'ed here would later be his undoing and exit from the series. It makes sense why this gets singled out for McCoy purposes, but it's not the strongest episode and the ending is a large reason why.
Dems stupidity runs deep...
m-4782622 January 2024
It is true now, and it still was then. McCoy is such a peachy sob, he represents everything I despise about the left wing. People are the problem, not the weapons. In fact even a spoon can be deadly, so are we going to forbid people to buy silverware and sue the manufacturers? This way of infantilizing those who make their own choices in life, is driving me crazy. As far as the episode as a whole is concerned, the pace felt off and I really don't like Briscoe's new partner. I didn't like him in Ally McBeal and I don't like him there much either. It's a shame Carmichael was sidelined, I always like knowing where she stands, and seeing her putting McCoy in his place, is always a joy to watch.
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